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O monstro das quatro cordas

São tantos os temas sobre o Suicidal que nesse tempo todo de blog  (já são três meses) eu mal falei de um personagem importantíssimo na história da banda: Rob Trujillo.

O baixista Roberto Agustín Trujillo entrou para o ST em 1989, substituindo Bob Heathcote, indicado pelo camarada Rocky George, conhecido dos tempos de moleque em Culver City.

George e Trujillo nos bastidores: camaradas da antiga e dupla de ouro do ST

George e Trujillo nos bastidores: camaradas da antiga e dupla de ouro do ST

Deixou a banda oito anos depois, após a gravação de seis discos e a participação no projeto paralelo Infectious Grooves, ao lado de Mike Muir. A partir daí, tocou com Ozzy Osborne e ganhou mega-projeção mundial ao integrar o Metallica, em 2003.

Encontrei no Suicidal Fan Forum uma entrevista excelente do Trujillo para a Juice Magazine, revista de Venice, na edição 61. No papo, o monstro das quatro cordas (ou mais) dá uma geral na carreira para o entrevistador Jeff Ho (ele mesmo, o lendário shaper das pranchas de surf Zephyr).

Selecionei as partes em que o músico fala sobre os tempos de Suicidal (em inglês). A íntegra você pode conferir aqui.

How did you meet up with Mike Muir?
I used to work at a jazz café called the Comeback Inn. It was on West Washington, which is now called Abbott Kinney. Back in the day, the Comeback Inn would have these concerts outdoors. This was when new age was starting to come in to the picture. They had a lot of great jazz-fusion bands there. I wanted to work there, so that I could hang out with the hot, ripping jazz players. There was a surf shop next door to the Comeback Inn, and Mike Muir and Jim Muir lived behind the shop in the old pagoda or the “pumpkin”. Mike Muir and his friends would point the PA speakers over at the Comeback Inn in the patio area where the stage was set up, and these new age bands were playing. They would blast punk rock music through the PA. My boss would get so pissed. He would start screaming at them to turn it off. They would yell back on the PA, “Will’s a fag!” That was my first encounter with Muir. The other encounter I had with Muir was in the early ‘80s at a party in Venice. I remember him and his homies coming into the party, and they were just destroying shit. They owned that party. They just dismantled the party and scared everybody. Those were my early encounters with Muir and the hoodrats back in the early ‘80s.

When did you start playing with Suicidal Tendencies?
I hooked up with Suicidal Tendencies in ‘89. I was really good friends with Rocky George, their guitar player. Rocky and I went to high school together. He was from Culver City. Rocky George, played on “Join the Army” and “How Will I Laugh…” He was their guitar player from ‘84 to ‘96. Rocky was the one that got me into Suicidal. I auditioned for the band. I thought it would be this massive audition with all of these different players, but they were like, “If you want the gig, you got the gig.” That was the best break for me, because, in ‘89, Suicidal was going on one of their first real true arena tours. The next thing you know, I’m in Europe with Suicidal, opening for Anthrax. After that, we were opening for Slayer on the Clash of the Titans tour. It just started to blossom from there with Suicidal.

Trujillo em show com o Suicidal

Trujillo em show com o Suicidal

Was Suicidal the first group that you actually broke out with and did a tour with?
Yeah. That was the first, true, serious band that I was in. I was breaking away from the local scene, and from the semi-Hollywood type thing that I didn’t enjoy at all. Suicidal was the band that took me all around the U.S. and took me to Europe, Japan, etc. It was great because with Suicidal, everything was a challenge. We went from playing funky little theaters and clubs, to headlining Irvine Meadows, to opening for Metallica in 1993 in front of huge crowds.

So you were stoked.

Did that allow you to feel more creative?
Absolutely. Suicidal was such an important time for me. It also reacquainted me with surfing. Mike Clark, who’s a really amazing surfer, got me back into surfing. I surfed a lot from ’82 to‘86, and then I kind of, started slacking. When I joined Suicidal Tendencies, whenever we’d end up in Australia, or anywhere there was a wave, Mike would surf it. He’d drag me along with him. We’d be in New Zealand, and he’d say, “Dude, let’s go surfing.” He was really good, and I was kind of, okay. He’d get me out there and I finally realized through him that I had an amazing opportunity as a touring musician to explore some of the most amazing waves all over the world.

Oh, yeah.
Being able to surf in Tahiti, and places like Brazil was unreal. We’d always end up in Hawaii at some point. We’d do a killer concert in Hawaii and then we’d be able to go surfing for a few days. Because of those experiences with Mike Clark, and now with Metallica, I’ve been to Portugal, for instance, surfing southern Portugal, about six times now. I love it down there.

Trujillo, e a cabeleira que virou marca registrada, ao lado de Mike Clark nos anos 90

Trujillo, e a cabeleira que virou marca registrada, ao lado de Mike Clark nos anos 90

Talk to me a little bit about the years with Suicidal. You were over in Europe, having a really good time over there. You were snowboarding, too?
Yeah, that was another great thing. I used to push it back then and snowboard on the same day as a show. I would go snowboarding in Austria and take a train to get to Italy to do a show. I’d call Mike at the hotel. Back then it was all European pay phones. There were no international cell phones. I’d call Mike because they were all waiting for me and say, “I’m in a train depot about an hour outside of Torino, Italy.” I never really knew if I was going to make it. What if I missed the train? Finally, I had to chill out on that. I had to stop pushing the limit on that stuff. I was so addicted to snowboarding back then that it was starting to tamper with the music. It could potentially create a disaster for the band. I did a lot of snowboarding in Europe, probably more than I should have.

What led up to the break up of Suicidal?
Well, there have been different phases of Suicidal over the years. I think, during the era that I was in Suicidal Tendencies, which was ‘89-‘96, we were working so hard. We were touring all the time. When we weren’t touring, we were making an album. I was writing and recording, with Mike Muir. We were doing a band called Infectious Grooves. That was another musical project that we were involved with. That was great. We made three albums with Infectious Grooves. People tell me, to this day, that they are fans of Infectious Grooves. These were the creative challenges that we had taken on, plus the hard work we did with our shows. I think it became very taxing on everyone in the band and it created tension. Sometimes, the tension can stir up resentment with your band mates. Sometimes you need to take time off. Take a break for a year. That’s what we did with Metallica. My first two years with Metallica, we were non-stop. Then we took a year off. I talked to the guys in the band, twice in the year off from the band. It’s not because we have a problem with each other. It’s just that when you’re with each other so much on the road for a couple of years, when you do have time off, you really take time off. It’s a great thing. It’s not a problem. That’s just how we are. Now we started doing shows again and we’re writing material for the next album and we’re moving forward. Sometimes that’s necessary. With Suicidal, I don’t know if we just couldn’t afford to do that, but it was just something we never really got to do.

Everyone just diffused.
Yeah. I remember when Suicidal was on tour with Metallica, I was getting in fistfights with Rocky George, who was one of my best friends.

No way.

Muir e Trujillo, parceiros também com o Infectious Grooves

Muir e Trujillo, parceiros também com o Infectious Grooves

There was just a lot of tension?
Yeah, I remember he and I were literally throwing each other around and socking each other on stage while Metallica was playing. Rocky and I were right there beside James Hetfield’s guitars, and we’re brawling. I’m thinking to myself, “This fuckin’ sucks. What is this?” That happened a couple of times. It was kind of funny. We’re brawling and Metallica is jamming. We were having a fight right on stage, probably during the song “Fight Fire with Fire”.

Did you have a disagreement?
No, it was just tension, and maybe there was a little alcohol involved.

[Laughs.] Okay.
It was tension and alcohol.

And stress?
It was a lot of things. That was the end of that era. On a good note, Mike Muir and I hung out a few weeks ago and spent about four hours together, shooting the shit and hanging out. Everybody’s cool. Rocky is still a great friend.

Are you working with Mike at all?
Mike actually has some material that may potentially be released in the future. It’s recordings from 14 years ago that we’d done together with this amazing drummer, Josh Freese and members of Infectious Grooves. It’s not Suicidal Tendencies. It’s very different, but it’s amazing. For me, right now, my main focus and number one priority is Metallica. We’re working hard writing and, hopefully, in about a year, we’ll have an album ready to go. We’ll get back on the road and kick ass again.

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Jon Nelson na área…

É moçada, o blog está ficando importante. Durante a semana que passou, fui checar os comentários e tive uma grande surpresa. Na entrevista com o Amery Smith, nada mais, nada menos que Jon Nelson, o guitarrista que antecedeu Rocky George, havia deixado um recado por lá.

Em princípio, um pequeno mal-entendido. Nelson reclamava de não estar sendo citado no blog. Injustiça que ele reparou por email, logo em seguida,  após dar uma conferida melhor no material (um dos primeiros posts do blog é exclusivamente sobre ele).

Mas isso tudo é detalhe. O importante mesmo é que ele não somente topou, como já concedeu uma bela entrevista que, em breve, pinta por aqui. Fiquem ligados!

Nelson tocando com os dentes nos tempos de ST, herança do ídolo Hendrix

Nelson tocando com os dentes nos tempos de ST, herança do ídolo Hendrix

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Entrevista – Mike Clark

Mais um Cyco pintando no blog.  Depois de Louichi Mayorga e Amery Smith, é a vez de Mike Clark, em nova entrevista exclusiva.  Falei com Clark por email, depois de um pedido de contato à assessoria da banda. Enviadas as perguntas, uns dias depois vieram as respostas, há duas semanas.

O guitarrista passou a integrar o Suicidal em 1988, vindo de outra banda de Venice, o No Mercy, que havia contado com a camaradagem de Mike Muir pouco antes.  Sua primeira participação foi no álbum How Will I Laugh Tomorrow. De lá para cá, são mais de 20 anos com o ST – descontando o período de recesso.

Tanto tempo fez de Clark um símbolo do grupo tão importante quanto Mike Muir. Dá para dizer que ele é, atualmente, o fiel escudeiro do vocalista. Sempre paramentado com as marcas do ST, de uns tempos para cá é ele quem agita os fãs,  realmente representa a banda.

Sem contar, é claro, da categoria com o instrumento nas mãos. Desde o início atuando como segundo guitarrista, Clark é responsável por uma infinidade de riffs clássicos. Fez base para o lendário Rocky George e já algum tempo arrepia com Dean Pleasants.

Como já virou padrão, fiz uma tradução livre das respostas, publicadas também em inglês.

Onde você nasceu?
UCLA Medical Center, Los Angeles, California.

O ST tem uma forte relação com Venice e, principalmente, o skate. Você tem essa mesma ligação?
Eu cresci em Venice e skate toda a minha vida.
I was raised in Venice and skateboarded all my life.

Como você entrou para a banda?
Eu tive amigos com Mike Muir a maior parte da minha vida. Eu estava em uma banda chamada No Mercy, no meio dos anos 80. Nós precisávamos de um novo vocalista e Mike nos ajudou, cantando para nós. Nós acabamos fazendo um disco chamado Widespread Bloodshed. Isso foi ótimo. Infelizmente, a banda acabou. E felizmente, para mim, o Suicidal procurava um segundo guitarrista. Mike me chamou e eu estou na banda desde então.

Clark, com o papel vermelho no boné, ainda no No Mercy, na época do lançamento da coletânea Welcome to Venice

Clark, com o papel vermelho no boné, ainda no No Mercy, na época do lançamento da coletânea Welcome to Venice

I’ve been friends with Mike Muir most of my life. I was in a band called No Mercy in the mid 80’s. We needed a new singer, and Mike helped us out and sang for us. We ended up making a record with him, called Widespread Bloodshed. It was great. Unfortunately the band broke up. Fortunately for me, Suicidal was looking to add a second guitarist. Mike called me and I’ve been in the band ever since.

A banda sempre foi associada às gangues de Venice. Em algum momento, houve uma relação direta?
Em Venice, todos os skatistas, surfistas e membros de gangues se vestem muito parecidos. Nós estávamos todos dentro da cena surf e skate, e era assim que nós nos vestíamos. Quando você tem um grupo de pessoas que se parecem de certa maneira, as pessoas se assustam e supõem que é uma gangue. Nós somos o Suicidal. Nós somos de Venice.

In Venice, all the skaters, surfers and gangsters, all dress pretty much the same. We were all into the surf, skate scene and that’s how we dressed. When you get a bunch of people together, that look a certain way, people get scared and assume you’re a gang. We are Suicidal. We are from Venice.

Qual o seu melhor momento no ST? E o pior?
São muitos bons momentos. Muitos bons shows para escolher apenas um. Então eu apenas direi dessa última turnê na Europa. Alguns ótimos momentos no palco. Eu fico realmente orgulhoso dos meus colegas de banda. Eles são ótimos!
O pior foi quando nós encerramos nos anos 90. Eu não tinha certeza se nós voltaríamos juntos. Foi um tempo difícil, com certeza.

Mike, anos 90 style

Mike, anos 90 style

So many good times. So many good shows to count just one. So, I’ll just say this last tour in Europe. Some great moments on stage for me. I was really proud of my band mates. They were great!
The worst was when we broke up in the 90’s. I wasn’t sure if we would ever get back together. That was a hard time for sure.

Como é tocar por mais de 20 anos na mesma banda?
É como respirar, é a minha vida e ela é ótima!I

It’s like breathing. It’s my life and life is great!

Você tem contato com ex-membros do ST?
Eu esbarro com eles de tempo em tempo. Continuam amigos. Caras legais.

I run into them from time to time. Still friends. Cool guys.

Você concorda que o Suicidal tem fãs tão fiéis por considerarem a banda algo muito além da música?
O que eu amo sobre os nossos fãs é que eles entendem de onde nós viemos. Então, sim, é mais de um estilo de vida e nós somos uma família.

The thing I love about our fans is that they understand where we are coming from. So, yes, it is more of a lifestyle and we are family.

Os fãs do Suicidal sempre falam muito bem de você. Por que?
Eu não encaro nossos fãs como fãs. Mas mais como alguém com quem você sairia para se divertir, ou estar em casa entre amigos. Então é fácil de estar junto deles. É legal sair com eles em suas cidades. Você aprende muito e conhece algumas pessoasl realmente legais.

Mais que um guitarrista, um símbolo do ST

Guitarrista e símbolo do ST

I don’t really look at our fans as fans. But more like someone you would hang out with or be friends with at home. So it’s easy to get along with them. It’s cool to hang out with them in their homeland. You learn a lot and meet some really cool people.

Qual o futuro do Suicidal?
O futuro parece ótimo para o Suicidal! Nós temos muitas coisas para o ano que vem. Estamos muito animados com tudo isso.

The future looks great for Suicidal! We have a lot of things coming up next year that we’re very excited about.

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Tá tudo em casa…

Rapaziada que está chegando aqui em busca de atualizações, take it easy! Manterei o ritmo de atualizações diárias,  como de costume. Estou só dando um tempo a mais para a entrevista com o Louichi Mayorga, logo abaixo. Merece, certo?

Aproveito para agradecer os vários comentários dos últimos dias. Franco, Guilherme, Tiago Puppi, Dude, George, Madruga e Suicidal Maniac. Valeu mesmo! Aliás, Puppi e Madruga solucionaram o enigma (pra mim, pelo menos) do bonézinho do Rocky George. Isso vai virar post!

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